What if the missing piece in your faith or relationships isn’t more effort—but empathy? Justin and Trish are joined again by psychologists and spiritual directors Bill and Kristi Gaultiere, founders of Soul Shepherding, to talk about their new book Deeply Loved. Together, they explore how empathy helps us experience God’s love on a heart level, why many Christians struggle with shame and emotional honesty, and how biblical empathy leads to healing, growth, and healthier relationships. This conversation addresses common misunderstandings about empathy, including the idea of “toxic empathy,” and offers practical ways to pair empathy with truth and responsibility. If you long to feel deeply known, deeply loved, and more connected to God and others, this episode is for you. Links and/or Resources Deeply Loved by Bill & Kristi Gaultiere Soul Shepherding: https://www.soulshepherding.org Books by Justin & Trisha Davis